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Post by groth on May 16, 2016 13:14:51 GMT -5
Now, as an addition to the first point. You could also limit new people to 100 years of age, which is early Ancillae, and let rerolling players make older following the above beatsheet requirement - but that can get into a gray area of unnecessary complaints. I'd be even more aggressive and limit people to being a kindred for 50 years or less for their first character and the reason for this is quite simple. There's very few people who can convincingly play elder characters and the liberal policies that RfK has had in the past in regards to age has in my opinion been detrimental to the theme of the game. Anyone wanting to play a legitimately old character should need to put in the relevant legwork through beat sheets to prove that they understand what it means to be that age and have a rudimentary understanding of the time periods they're supposed to be able to remember. Originally as a rule, no Kindred in Kingsmouth was a native of Kingsmouth, unless they were among the NPCs. Everyone was new arrivals because the history of Kingsmouth was one of a wore ravaged Praxis War that drove off everyone but for the NPCs the game originally started with. Well, you could be native to Kingsmouth as long as you were not present in Kingsmouth for the past 20 years or so. |
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Post by kingsmouthcat on May 17, 2016 10:06:25 GMT -5
Interesting point. I'm actually curious as to what playing an elder should require an awareness of, but that's probably a discussion for another place and time. Though I can agree that you should have at least a basic knowledge of the time period, maybe a few snippets of some texts that might have been read during the era. Not to say that you should be able to quote the complete works of Shakespeare if you were from his era, but a familiarity with what might have been pop culture while you were mortal would be helpful, I think.
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Post by gregory on May 23, 2016 14:05:36 GMT -5
I'm very much against limiting this down to the 50 year mark, for the simple reason that there are certain covenants (like the Invictus for example) where someone that young should never be able to gain real authority, because age is such a big deal. We ran into this a lot with Gwen previously, because she was such a great RPer and so involved, we very much wanted to push her up towards leadership roles..but at the same time, her character was in essence a baby as far as years as a Vampire, so it was incredibly unrealistic for old Invictus folk to really put weight on her words.
I'd say that 'keep it under 250' is a good guideline, maybe with a suggestion that if there's not a really, really compelling reason you want the character to be older, just have it be from the 1900's somewhere. But at the same time, I strongly advise that there should be an allowance for strong character concepts to come in. Thus, a 'guideline' is better than a 'rule' in my opinion.
My key thing would be that a character shouldn't just expect to be handed extra points or free passes on things because they made their character 'old'. You're four hundred years old? Great, you're still new to Kingsmouth, and gonna have to prove your worth -here-..especially as being that old and established, and yet still moving to a new city, suggests some sort of problem in your recent history.
My three cents.
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Post by Admin on May 23, 2016 22:40:30 GMT -5
I think the general consensus is stating that 250 or lower would be cool without justification but higher requires beatsheets filled out before chargen is approved. It still begs the question on how old is too old or is that not actually a problem if the justification is well-written and, well, makes sense?
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Post by nora on May 24, 2016 7:10:52 GMT -5
If a person is willing to fill out their beatsheets ahead of time and can justify it in a sensible manner and everything looks kosher, why not? It could be a lot of fun to play someone that much older and there are enough drawbacks built in (the loss of abilities and memories from torpor, the fish out of water potential Masq breach, having to write ALL THAT STUFF before actually making it into the game, etc.) that I doubt there will be a rush on 500 year old vampires.
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Post by groth on May 25, 2016 13:35:00 GMT -5
I'm very much against limiting this down to the 50 year mark, for the simple reason that there are certain covenants (like the Invictus for example) where someone that young should never be able to gain real authority, because age is such a big deal. We ran into this a lot with Gwen previously, because she was such a great RPer and so involved, we very much wanted to push her up towards leadership roles..but at the same time, her character was in essence a baby as far as years as a Vampire, so it was incredibly unrealistic for old Invictus folk to really put weight on her words. I'd say that 'keep it under 250' is a good guideline, maybe with a suggestion that if there's not a really, really compelling reason you want the character to be older, just have it be from the 1900's somewhere. But at the same time, I strongly advise that there should be an allowance for strong character concepts to come in. Thus, a 'guideline' is better than a 'rule' in my opinion. My key thing would be that a character shouldn't just expect to be handed extra points or free passes on things because they made their character 'old'. You're four hundred years old? Great, you're still new to Kingsmouth, and gonna have to prove your worth -here-..especially as being that old and established, and yet still moving to a new city, suggests some sort of problem in your recent history. My three cents. Keep in mind that there's no requirement to be old to be strong in Chronicles of Darkness. There are countless ways that a young vampire might have amassed large personal might, what comes with age is more likely to be connections and good survival instincts. I think too many people make their characters excessively old without considering if that's really what fits the concept best. In the Invictus age and connections are vital, in other covenants the considerations are different. |
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Post by lordbelh on May 25, 2016 20:15:28 GMT -5
Be as old as you wanna be, that's my two cents.
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